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Sell Out?

Started on 07/20/10

Endgame on Jul 20, 2010

Many people (especially kids) adopt a punker than thou attitude if a band starts to stray from the sound on their first demo...and scream, "SELL OUT!"

As I get older, I am much more forgiving in my judgments and open to different styles.

A recent example is one of my favorite bands, Against Me! When the band first started it was nothing but acoustic guitars and screaming...now it is a much fuller and produced sound. I still like the new stuff, but admit that the earlier stuff is some of my all-time favorite.

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In general, do you think bands "grow" into different sounds or do they "sell out" in a deliberate attempt to enter the mainstream??
Kevin on Jul 21, 2010

Awesome topic.

I think there are examples of both, but I feel like Against Me, although I'm sure they have a conscious desire to become a bigger band, is an example of a band just growing. You get older, you're a different person, and so your music will necessarily be different. If it's not, you're probably being disingenuous.

I think it's just as bad for a band to come out with the same music over and over again throughout their career just to not upset fans, or just to keep alive what works. Whether you're doing that or you're changing your music to become bigger, either way you're sacrificing art and honesty for some goal.

To me, "selling out" doesn't mean getting popular. Kids throw that around, mostly, I think, because they're at an age where they're trying to latch on to some sense of individuality. And when a band you know that people outside you're group doesn't know goes and gets big, it threatens your fragile sense of individuality. It's selfish really.

So, to me, any change is absolutely fine as long as it's honest, and I don't think that's too hard to detect. I love when bands get weird and try new things. That album I like that I'm attached to, well I already have that, so go get weird and make me think.

Edit Your CommentAwesome topic. I think there are examples of both, but I feel like Against Me, although I'm sure they have a conscious desire to become a bigger band, is an example of a band just growing. You get older, you're a different person, and so your music will necessarily be different. If it's not, you're probably being disingenuous. I think it's just as bad for a band to come out with the same music over and over again throughout their career just to not upset fans, or just to keep alive what works. Whether you're doing that or you're changing your music to become bigger, either way you're sacrificing art and honesty for some goal. To me, "selling out" doesn't mean getting popular. Kids throw that around, mostly, I think, because they're at an age where they're trying to latch on to some sense of individuality. And when a band you know that people outside you're group doesn't know goes and gets big, it threatens your fragile sense of individuality. It's selfish really. So, to me, any change is absolutely fine as long as it's honest, and I don't think that's too hard to detect. I love when bands get weird and try new things. That album I like that I'm attached to, well I already have that, so go get weird and make me think.

Awesome topic. I think there are examples of both, but I feel like Against Me, although I'm sure they have a conscious desire to become a bigger band, is an example of a band just growing. You get older, you're a different person, and so your music will necessarily be different. If it's not, you're probably being disingenuous. I think it's just as bad for a band to come out with the same music over and over again throughout their career just to not upset fans, or just to keep alive what works. Whether you're doing that or you're changing your music to become bigger, either way you're sacrificing art and honesty for some goal. To me, "selling out" doesn't mean getting popular. Kids throw that around, mostly, I think, because they're at an age where they're trying to latch on to some sense of individuality. And when a band you know that people outside you're group doesn't know goes and gets big, it threatens your fragile sense of individuality. It's selfish really. So, to me, any change is absolutely fine as long as it's honest, and I don't think that's too hard to detect. I love when bands get weird and try new things. That album I like that I'm attached to, well I already have that, so go get weird and make me think.
Kevin on Jul 21, 2010

But while we're on the topic, here are two bands that legit sold out and it really pissed me off in high school:

EARTH CRISIS (what the fuck was up with Slither?)
VISION OF DISORDER (From Bliss to Devastation)

Just two of many bands that fell victim to the numetal craze.

Edit Your CommentBut while we're on the topic, here are two bands that legit sold out and it really pissed me off in high school: EARTH CRISIS (what the fuck was up with Slither?) VISION OF DISORDER (From Bliss to Devastation) Just two of many bands that fell victim to the numetal craze.

But while we're on the topic, here are two bands that legit sold out and it really pissed me off in high school: EARTH CRISIS (what the fuck was up with Slither?) VISION OF DISORDER (From Bliss to Devastation) Just two of many bands that fell victim to the numetal craze.
Skull With Hair on Jul 21, 2010

tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones.

i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with.

example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck.

sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.

Edit Your Commenttons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones. i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with. example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck. sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.

tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones. i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with. example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck. sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.
Kevin on Jul 21, 2010

Skull With Hair said: tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones.

i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with.

example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck.

sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.

Solid point.

Edit Your Comment<blockquote><cite>Skull With Hair said:</cite> tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones. i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with. example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck. sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.</blockquote> Solid point.

Skull With Hair said: tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones. i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with. example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck. sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.
Solid point.
Jason Taylor on Jul 21, 2010

I look for a chance to sell out everyday.

Edit Your CommentI look for a chance to sell out everyday.

I look for a chance to sell out everyday.
zeblove on Jul 21, 2010

Jason Taylor said: I look for a chance to sell out everyday.

Hahaha, I am totally with you Jason.

Edit Your Comment<blockquote><cite>Jason Taylor said:</cite> I look for a chance to sell out everyday.</blockquote> Hahaha, I am totally with you Jason.

Jason Taylor said: I look for a chance to sell out everyday.
Hahaha, I am totally with you Jason.
Endgame on Jul 21, 2010

Kevin said: I think it's just as bad for a band to come out with the same music over and over again throughout their career just to not upset fans, or just to keep alive what works.

Great point...I kind of felt like this with Blink. These guys were 30 years old still singing about how they feel nervous asking to hold a girl's hand. But I still love the band and can remember exactly wear I was standing when I heard Cheshire Cat for the first time.

And with Facebook and such, people can be just so fucking brutal and rude to the bands they supposedly used to love. Not sure if the bands read that shit, but it can be rough. Maybe I don't love the new AM! stuff as much as the older stuff, but I am still going to buy it and support the band. It is the least I can do for a band that has given me one of my favorite albums of all time.

Edit Your Comment<blockquote><cite>Kevin said:</cite> I think it's just as bad for a band to come out with the same music over and over again throughout their career just to not upset fans, or just to keep alive what works.</blockquote> Great point...I kind of felt like this with Blink. These guys were 30 years old still singing about how they feel nervous asking to hold a girl's hand. But I still love the band and can remember exactly wear I was standing when I heard Cheshire Cat for the first time. And with Facebook and such, people can be just so fucking brutal and rude to the bands they supposedly used to love. Not sure if the bands read that shit, but it can be rough. Maybe I don't love the new AM! stuff as much as the older stuff, but I am still going to buy it and support the band. It is the least I can do for a band that has given me one of my favorite albums of all time.

Kevin said: I think it's just as bad for a band to come out with the same music over and over again throughout their career just to not upset fans, or just to keep alive what works.
Great point...I kind of felt like this with Blink. These guys were 30 years old still singing about how they feel nervous asking to hold a girl's hand. But I still love the band and can remember exactly wear I was standing when I heard Cheshire Cat for the first time. And with Facebook and such, people can be just so fucking brutal and rude to the bands they supposedly used to love. Not sure if the bands read that shit, but it can be rough. Maybe I don't love the new AM! stuff as much as the older stuff, but I am still going to buy it and support the band. It is the least I can do for a band that has given me one of my favorite albums of all time.
Endgame on Jul 21, 2010

Skull With Hair said: tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones. i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with. example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck. sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.

Well said.

Edit Your Comment<blockquote><cite>Skull With Hair said:</cite> tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones. i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with. example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck. sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.</blockquote> Well said.

Skull With Hair said: tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones. i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with. example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck. sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.
Well said.
AtomicChild on Jul 21, 2010

Skull With Hair said: tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones.

i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with.

example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck.

sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.

This has totally been my theory forever...hit the nail on the head sir

Edit Your Comment<blockquote><cite>Skull With Hair said:</cite> tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones. i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with. example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck. sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.</blockquote> This has totally been my theory forever...hit the nail on the head sir

Skull With Hair said: tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones. i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with. example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck. sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.
This has totally been my theory forever...hit the nail on the head sir
Skull With Hair on Jul 21, 2010

AtomicChild said:
Skull With Hair said: tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones.

i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with.

example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck.

sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.

This has totally been my theory forever...hit the nail on the head sir

what? the part about women?

Edit Your Comment<blockquote><cite>AtomicChild said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Skull With Hair said:</cite> tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones. i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with. example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck. sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.</blockquote> This has totally been my theory forever...hit the nail on the head sir</blockquote> what? the part about women?

AtomicChild said:
Skull With Hair said: tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones. i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with. example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck. sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.
This has totally been my theory forever...hit the nail on the head sir
what? the part about women?
AtomicChild on Jul 21, 2010

Skull With Hair said:
AtomicChild said:
Skull With Hair said: tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones.

i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with.

example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck.

sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.

This has totally been my theory forever...hit the nail on the head sir

what? the part about women?

of course

Edit Your Comment<blockquote><cite>Skull With Hair said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>AtomicChild said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Skull With Hair said:</cite> tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones. i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with. example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck. sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.</blockquote> This has totally been my theory forever...hit the nail on the head sir</blockquote> what? the part about women?</blockquote> of course

Skull With Hair said:
AtomicChild said:
Skull With Hair said: tons of bands "sell out", but i don't really feel that is the reason most bands later records suck more than their earlier ones. i think the decline in quality of a bands music as their career moves along is directly related to their separation from the social experience that inspired their music to begin with. example: you're some kid in a shitty town your whole life, writing songs about how women are horrible people, drugs are cool, the system sucks, ect. Then people relate with that shit, you get popular, tour tour tour, put out more records, tour more, write more, tour more, ect. Your life has now changed, doesn't suck as much and the only thing you do is tour. Inspiration has kind of flat-lined and as a result the music starts to suck. sure there are brilliant artists who escape this, but they are few and far between.
This has totally been my theory forever...hit the nail on the head sir
what? the part about women?
of course
Jayna on Jul 22, 2010

Against Me was my favorite band for years, I pretty much stopped listening after As the Eternal Cowboy. Never got mad and all sellout yelling just knew they were changing as musicians and not to my particular taste. But I did kind of love hearing I was a Teenaged Anarchist, it's kind of like Tom Gable is subtly, and most likely subconsciously, putting his musical career in perspective, (not only you know, his politics) most importantly for himself but for his fans if they're smart enough to pay attention. I totally smiled a little bit when I heard it.

In other words he's all like "HEY GUYS WHAT I USED TO DO WAS COOL, BUT THIS IS COOL TOO."

I kinda love the guy for it. Even if I ain't dig on his new jams so much these days.

And you know what? Being an angry kid sucks. So like, people usually want to change that. Sometimes it's hard to do it tastefully.

Edit Your CommentAgainst Me was my favorite band for years, I pretty much stopped listening after As the Eternal Cowboy. Never got mad and all sellout yelling just knew they were changing as musicians and not to my particular taste. But I did kind of love hearing I was a Teenaged Anarchist, it's kind of like Tom Gable is subtly, and most likely subconsciously, putting his musical career in perspective, (not only you know, his politics) most importantly for himself but for his fans if they're smart enough to pay attention. I totally smiled a little bit when I heard it. In other words he's all like "HEY GUYS WHAT I USED TO DO WAS COOL, BUT THIS IS COOL TOO." I kinda love the guy for it. Even if I ain't dig on his new jams so much these days. And you know what? Being an angry kid sucks. So like, people usually want to change that. Sometimes it's hard to do it tastefully.

Against Me was my favorite band for years, I pretty much stopped listening after As the Eternal Cowboy. Never got mad and all sellout yelling just knew they were changing as musicians and not to my particular taste. But I did kind of love hearing I was a Teenaged Anarchist, it's kind of like Tom Gable is subtly, and most likely subconsciously, putting his musical career in perspective, (not only you know, his politics) most importantly for himself but for his fans if they're smart enough to pay attention. I totally smiled a little bit when I heard it. In other words he's all like "HEY GUYS WHAT I USED TO DO WAS COOL, BUT THIS IS COOL TOO." I kinda love the guy for it. Even if I ain't dig on his new jams so much these days. And you know what? Being an angry kid sucks. So like, people usually want to change that. Sometimes it's hard to do it tastefully.
Endgame on Jul 22, 2010

Jayna said: Against Me was my favorite band for years, I pretty much stopped listening after As the Eternal Cowboy. Never got mad and all sellout yelling just knew they were changing as musicians and not to my particular taste. But I did kind of love hearing I was a Teenaged Anarchist, it's kind of like Tom Gable is subtly, and most likely subconsciously, putting his musical career in perspective, (not only you know, his politics) most importantly for himself but for his fans if they're smart enough to pay attention. I totally smiled a little bit when I heard it. In other words he's all like "HEY GUYS WHAT I USED TO DO WAS COOL, BUT THIS IS COOL TOO." I kinda love the guy for it. Even if I ain't dig on his new jams so much these days. And you know what? Being an angry kid sucks. So like, people usually want to change that. Sometimes it's hard to do it tastefully.

And the "I Was a Teenage Anarchist" song is pretty much him describing becoming disillusioned with the closed mindedness of his scene...kind of like, "fuck you, if you think I sold out"...good stuff!

Edit Your Comment<blockquote><cite>Jayna said:</cite> Against Me was my favorite band for years, I pretty much stopped listening after As the Eternal Cowboy. Never got mad and all sellout yelling just knew they were changing as musicians and not to my particular taste. But I did kind of love hearing I was a Teenaged Anarchist, it's kind of like Tom Gable is subtly, and most likely subconsciously, putting his musical career in perspective, (not only you know, his politics) most importantly for himself but for his fans if they're smart enough to pay attention. I totally smiled a little bit when I heard it. In other words he's all like "HEY GUYS WHAT I USED TO DO WAS COOL, BUT THIS IS COOL TOO." I kinda love the guy for it. Even if I ain't dig on his new jams so much these days. And you know what? Being an angry kid sucks. So like, people usually want to change that. Sometimes it's hard to do it tastefully.</blockquote> And the "I Was a Teenage Anarchist" song is pretty much him describing becoming disillusioned with the closed mindedness of his scene...kind of like, "fuck you, if you think I sold out"...good stuff!

Jayna said: Against Me was my favorite band for years, I pretty much stopped listening after As the Eternal Cowboy. Never got mad and all sellout yelling just knew they were changing as musicians and not to my particular taste. But I did kind of love hearing I was a Teenaged Anarchist, it's kind of like Tom Gable is subtly, and most likely subconsciously, putting his musical career in perspective, (not only you know, his politics) most importantly for himself but for his fans if they're smart enough to pay attention. I totally smiled a little bit when I heard it. In other words he's all like "HEY GUYS WHAT I USED TO DO WAS COOL, BUT THIS IS COOL TOO." I kinda love the guy for it. Even if I ain't dig on his new jams so much these days. And you know what? Being an angry kid sucks. So like, people usually want to change that. Sometimes it's hard to do it tastefully.
And the "I Was a Teenage Anarchist" song is pretty much him describing becoming disillusioned with the closed mindedness of his scene...kind of like, "fuck you, if you think I sold out"...good stuff!
Thrash Nasty on Jul 23, 2010

Jayna said: Against Me was my favorite band for years, I pretty much stopped listening after As the Eternal Cowboy. Never got mad and all sellout yelling just knew they were changing as musicians and not to my particular taste. But I did kind of love hearing I was a Teenaged Anarchist, it's kind of like Tom Gable is subtly, and most likely subconsciously, putting his musical career in perspective, (not only you know, his politics) most importantly for himself but for his fans if they're smart enough to pay attention. I totally smiled a little bit when I heard it.

In other words he's all like "HEY GUYS WHAT I USED TO DO WAS COOL, BUT THIS IS COOL TOO."

I kinda love the guy for it. Even if I ain't dig on his new jams so much these days.

And you know what? Being an angry kid sucks. So like, people usually want to change that. Sometimes it's hard to do it tastefully.

Exactly what I thought when I heard the song for the first time.

Edit Your Comment<blockquote><cite>Jayna said:</cite> Against Me was my favorite band for years, I pretty much stopped listening after As the Eternal Cowboy. Never got mad and all sellout yelling just knew they were changing as musicians and not to my particular taste. But I did kind of love hearing I was a Teenaged Anarchist, it's kind of like Tom Gable is subtly, and most likely subconsciously, putting his musical career in perspective, (not only you know, his politics) most importantly for himself but for his fans if they're smart enough to pay attention. I totally smiled a little bit when I heard it. In other words he's all like "HEY GUYS WHAT I USED TO DO WAS COOL, BUT THIS IS COOL TOO." I kinda love the guy for it. Even if I ain't dig on his new jams so much these days. And you know what? Being an angry kid sucks. So like, people usually want to change that. Sometimes it's hard to do it tastefully.</blockquote> Exactly what I thought when I heard the song for the first time.

Jayna said: Against Me was my favorite band for years, I pretty much stopped listening after As the Eternal Cowboy. Never got mad and all sellout yelling just knew they were changing as musicians and not to my particular taste. But I did kind of love hearing I was a Teenaged Anarchist, it's kind of like Tom Gable is subtly, and most likely subconsciously, putting his musical career in perspective, (not only you know, his politics) most importantly for himself but for his fans if they're smart enough to pay attention. I totally smiled a little bit when I heard it. In other words he's all like "HEY GUYS WHAT I USED TO DO WAS COOL, BUT THIS IS COOL TOO." I kinda love the guy for it. Even if I ain't dig on his new jams so much these days. And you know what? Being an angry kid sucks. So like, people usually want to change that. Sometimes it's hard to do it tastefully.
Exactly what I thought when I heard the song for the first time.
zachhobbs on Jul 24, 2010

I just wish that the new record was good. It's not that good. I don't care if bands change, just keep kicking out jams.

Edit Your CommentI just wish that the new record was good. It's not that good. I don't care if bands change, just keep kicking out jams.

I just wish that the new record was good. It's not that good. I don't care if bands change, just keep kicking out jams.

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